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Re: Sword & Scoundrel - Early Thursday Teaser Edition

Post by Barbarossa » 07 Jul 2017, 09:36

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thirtythr33 wrote:Keen? :?:
Thats the weapon's threat range. If it crits on a 19-20, with the Keen property it crits on a 17-20. :P
Crap! They worked out our plans! :shock:
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Post by Benedict » 07 Jul 2017, 09:37

thirtythr33 wrote:Also, why are Reflex and Speed different things when they derive from the same Attributes are can essentially be described as the same thing?

Or is reflex supposed to still be Agility + Cunning like in the last version?
Indeed. Thought that Reflex was A+C. Typo I guess.
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Re: Sword & Scoundrel - Early Thursday Teaser Edition

Post by Barbarossa » 07 Jul 2017, 09:42

Benedict wrote:
thirtythr33 wrote:Also, why are Reflex and Speed different things when they derive from the same Attributes are can essentially be described as the same thing?

Or is reflex supposed to still be Agility + Cunning like in the last version?
Indeed. Thought that Reflex was A+C. Typo I guess.
It was a typo, I have fixed it.

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Post by Agamemnon » 07 Jul 2017, 09:45

thirtythr33 wrote:Keen? :?:
You noticed Compensation and Accuracy in the video but didn't notice Keen? :lol:
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Benedict wrote:
thirtythr33 wrote:Keen? :?:
Thats the weapon's threat range. If it crits on a 19-20, with the Keen property it crits on a 17-20. :P
Crap! They worked out our plans! :shock:
All the debate about weapon realism made me realize that what clearly needed was a critical strike threshold and damage multipliers. We're also in the process of adding more granular weapon weights, speed modifiers, metallurgical modifiers, tempering modifiers, and mood modifiers for both person and weapon, because after all that, I needed a pick-me-up.

AHEM.

No. In all seriousness. We noticed that there was a bit of fiddliness on whether certain social skills were better resisted by cunning or perception and after a while it seemed easiest/most fair to split the difference -- in this case quite literally. Keen now serves as a social defense and a general sense of insight. In the future, it will also serve as the basis for the optional social combat system.
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Post by Agamemnon » 07 Jul 2017, 09:56

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Post by thirtythr33 » 07 Jul 2017, 10:02

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Post by Benedict » 07 Jul 2017, 10:16

Agamemnon wrote:We noticed that there was a bit of fiddliness on whether certain social skills were better resisted by cunning or perception and after a while it seemed easiest/most fair to split the difference -- in this case quite literally. Keen now serves as a social defense and a general sense of insight. In the future, it will also serve as the basis for the optional social combat system.
So we get 5 Primary
A=Agility
B=Brawn
C=Cunning
P=Perception
W=Will

and 4 Derived
G = Grit (B+W)/2
K = Keen (C+P)/2
R = Reflex (A+C)/2
S = Speed (A+B)/2

Why not add this too?
T = Temperance (P+W)/2; Moderation and self-control in action, statement, etc.

That way we have 5 Prime and 5 Derived, plus all possible X+Y Prime combinations, taking care of any OCDs. Perfect Symmetry, and each Attribute has a single letter assigned to it. 8-)
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Post by thirtythr33 » 07 Jul 2017, 10:23

That's not all the combinations of attributes. There are 10 total.
Missing would be A+P, A+W, B+C, B+P, C+W.
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Post by nemedeus » 07 Jul 2017, 10:23

Benedict wrote: That way we have 5 Prime and 5 Derived, plus all possible X+Y Prime combinations, taking care of any OCDs. Perfect Symmetry, and each Attribute has a single letter assigned to it. 8-)
I think you have a math error there, Ben.
A+W, A+P, B+C, B+P... which one am i missing?

Although when you said "possible combination" you probably meant "combination that makes sense" i figure.

... and 33 beat me to it, hahaha
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Post by Benedict » 07 Jul 2017, 10:32

No, you are both right. It's just that there's so much heat here and the AC is busted. :|

What I meant was "every possible combination when each Primary is used twice" so you end up with 5 Derived (that's total 10 Primaries used) but each gets used the same times. No instance of a 3 uses Agility vs 1 use Perception for example. And the desired number of Derived is 5 because the Primary are 5. Told ya, takes care of OCDs. :lol:

Anyway, the heat foiled my feeble attempt of a lame joke. :mrgreen:
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Post by Agamemnon » 07 Jul 2017, 18:43

GUESS WHO JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE AUTO-POPULATING, AUTO-BOOKMARKING, AUTO-HYPERLINKING TABLES OF CONTENTS WORK IN INDESIGN?
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Post by nemedeus » 07 Jul 2017, 20:14

Agamemnon wrote:GUESS WHO JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE AUTO-POPULATING, AUTO-BOOKMARKING, AUTO-HYPERLINKING TABLES OF CONTENTS WORK IN INDESIGN?

youtu.be/MTLtFDkyryI

Edit: welp, this isn't working.

Agamemnon edit: FTFY.
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Post by EinBein » 08 Jul 2017, 02:30

Agamemnon wrote:GUESS WHO JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE AUTO-POPULATING, AUTO-BOOKMARKING, AUTO-HYPERLINKING TABLES OF CONTENTS WORK IN INDESIGN?
:o Hype train accelerating...
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Re: Sword & Scoundrel - Early Thursday Teaser Edition

Post by higgins » 09 Jul 2017, 09:11

While the old Edges & Flaws were quite evocative for generating ideas, axing them has been so worth it. The new Traits chapter is probably my absolute favorite now.
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